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Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

edge540 wrote:

If your son or daughter was gay, would you hate & despise them?

no.

Now let me ask you a question.

if pedophiles and rapists said they were BORN that way would you support them?

edge540 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:42 pm **Posts:** 7691

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no

Good for you.
However you would hate & despise all othere gays?...WHY?

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if pedophiles and rapists said they....

I do not support pedophiles and rapists any more than you do.

Regionite · **Joined:** Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:06 am **Posts:** 698

But if they were born that way...

and why the heck do they get out of jail early when they really should never see the streets again? Like someone born an alcoholic it's not like they ever really get cured. At best they manage their condition. In earlier times they would have gotten the death penalty born that way or not. Problem solved!

deelight · **Joined:** Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:20 am **Posts:** 1575

LoisLane wrote:

deelight wrote:

Tiger1 wrote:

Lois, they can do what they want on their exclusive board, I could care less.

Oh Lois knows that... she was once a member of that "exclusive board". And if you didn't know that, reading her Henny Penny Virus accusations on one of the other threads would explain.

And you "claimed" that this was the only board you posted on...as deelight? or as another sockpuppet? Caught again!

As far as the virus accusations go, everyone is safe, as long as markh doesn't target your IP address...right?

These are all accusations you've made on this forum sweetie. If the above is your proof, I find that pretty hysterical, hun. Also, gotta love the markh conspiracy theories. The mythical internet prodigy with voodoo powers.

deelight · **Joined:** Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:20 am **Posts:** 1575

Regionite wrote:

Tell me how you chose to find the cheese dripping from his burly whiskers attractive.

What a ridiculous thing to say. There are people who choose to be a dis-gusting pig regardless of gender. :roll:

Way to miss the point. The point is that Tiger has openly admitted that attraction is a choice. I'm testing this theory. How about you Regionite? Can you choose to be attracted to this?

deelight · **Joined:** Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:20 am **Posts:** 1575

Let me break it down for you Moby, so that even you can understand.

Moby Grape wrote:

what about the rapist?

Homosexual couple = two consenting adults, Rapist = one or more consenting people and one non-consenting person

Moby Grape wrote:

what about the pedophiles?

Homosexual couple = two consenting adults, Pedophile = one consenting adult and a child unable or unwilling to consent with full understanding

Moby Grape wrote:

or the NAMBLA freaks who like little boys?

Homosexual couple = two consenting adults, NAMBLA = see above for rape and pedophilia

Moby Grape wrote:

or the crowd who likes to do it with animals?

Homosexual couple = two consenting adults, Bestiality = one animal without the ability to consent

Moby Grape wrote:

What if they say it's ''not a choice''?

The attraction may not be a choice, but whether or not they choose to act on it is a choice.

Moby Grape wrote:

Are they entitled to the same rights too?

are you going to vote for and defend them too?

The big theme in your post and my response is consent vs. non-consent. All adults should have the right to give or deny consent regardless of orientation. PERIOD.

If you deny consent (rape victims), or are unable to give consent (children & animals) you're entitled to the right of non-consent too.

Tiger1 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:12 pm

chuckmo48 wrote:

Tiger1 wrote:

It is a lifestyle choice.

So all of those gay priests chose to be gay? Even when, according to the catholics, they would burn in hell....Even with all of their knowledge of the catholic religion they chose to be gay and go against everything they were taught at the seminary...If that is the case, then you have some problems with the catholic religion :shock:

Food for thought...maybe you should study/follow your religion a little more closely:

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However, the Church also acknowledges that "[homosexuality’s] psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. . . . The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s cross the difficulties that they may encounter from their condition.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/homosexuality

People do what they want to do. It is called "free will'.

Tiger1 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:14 pm

Moby Grape wrote:

edge540 wrote:

BTW, we're not discussing criminal sexual behavior, you're off topic.

Wasn't gay sex, at one time, against the law edge?

perhaps you can tell us why it was legalized.

It was against the law. A lot of laws have been changed because of the liberals in this country. What they have sowed, they will reap.

Tiger1 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:15 pm

edge540 wrote:

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no, that's why I know it's a choice.

No it's not a choice. When they say that their born like that you don't believe it?
If it was a choice why would anybody make a choice like that? If you're not aroused by men, how could you choose to have sex with men?

You're arguing that you can choose to be aroused by a man.

What about pedophiles??? Are you giving them a free pass too???

karent · **Joined:** Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:33 pm **Posts:** 1408

No. Dee presented my argument quite succinctly. consent vs. non-consent.

Regionite · **Joined:** Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:06 am **Posts:** 698

deelight wrote:

Regionite wrote:

Tell me how you chose to find the cheese dripping from his burly whiskers attractive.

What a ridiculous thing to say. There are people who choose to be a dis-gusting pig regardless of gender. :roll:

Way to miss the point. The point is that Tiger has openly admitted that attraction is a choice. I'm testing this theory. How about you Regionite? Can you choose to be attracted to this?

Absolutely, believe it or not, someone could be attracted to that. You never been to a trailer park???? Or take grossly overweight women. There are websites catering to that sort of attraction.

In fact to a point you can even choose to be in love or not. Not the carnal crap you see on TV. I mean real love as in the couples who grow stronger together through adversity. Not the type that go splitsville because one or both can't manage money or one finds a newer, more attractive partner.

Erotic love is a nice concept (though it seldom lasts) but what do you do if you live in India or a Muslim country where marriages are arranged? I guess to a point you could say they could be born to marry a pig if fate doesn't shine on them favorably. :mrgreen:

deelight · **Joined:** Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:20 am **Posts:** 1575

Regionite wrote:

Absolutely, believe it or not, someone could be attracted to that.

Someone, not everyone.

Regionite wrote:

You never been to a trailer park???? Or take grossly overweight women. There are websites catering to that sort of attraction.

And who says that attraction is a choice?

Regionite wrote:

In fact to a point you can even choose to be in love or not. Not the carnal crap you see on TV. I mean real love as in the couples who grow stronger together through adversity.

Homosexuals know a thing or two about growing stronger together through adversity.

Regionite wrote:

Not the type that go splitsville because one or both can't manage money or one finds a newer, more attractive partner.

Like 40.6% of American heterosexual couples?

Regionite wrote:

Erotic love is a nice concept (though it seldom lasts) but what do you do if you live in India or a Muslim country where marriages are arranged?

Excellent examples of extremely messed up products of "sacred religious institutions"

edge540 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:42 pm **Posts:** 7691

Tiger wrote:

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It was against the law. A lot of laws have been changed because of the liberals in this country. What they have sowed, they will reap.

You betcha, Tiger.
Those liberal scumbags made slavery illegal & gave you women the right to vote. In 1964 they passed the Civil Rights Act giving black people the same rights as white people. Damn liberals.

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What about pedophiles??? Are you giving them a free pass too???

Why do bigots like you always want to throw in the "What about pedophiles" red herring, Tiger?

question:
What do two (or three :mrgreen:

)consenting adults having sex have to do with an adult raping a child?
answer:
nothing

edge540 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:42 pm **Posts:** 7691

Regionite wrote:

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Absolutely, believe it or not, someone could be attracted to that.

So it's possible you can be attracted to men & have sex with men, right?

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

edge540 wrote:

Why do bigots like you always want to throw in the "What about pedophiles" red herring, Tiger?

because homosexuals were outlawed at one time and like you, the shrinks agreed they were born that way and it was ''normal'' for them to behave that way so they were granted equal rights and have protection under hate crime laws.

The pedophiles are now trying the same thing and have found some shrinks who are willing to go along with it.

Now, do you agree with that?

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