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 Post subject: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:04 pm 
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GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY.
This country has been destroyed.
That is all I can say. :(

for those of you who wanted this.
I hope that you are happy.

Unless you have watched the meetings etc.
you have no idea what has been done.

let me help you a little.

they are figuring 5.5 million people are going to lose their jobs.

you have just hired 16,500 new IRS agents.
at a cost of another $10 Billion that was now in the bill for coverage.
They will be checking with everyone every month
to see that you have government approved ins.
If not you will be fined for that month.

Have medicare advantage. kiss it good by.

need a medical prosecure done. Stent, hip etc.
You will now be paying a tax on it.

illegal alien. you don't need insurance.
and you won't get fined.

You Amish. you don't need insurance and won't get fined.

Freetime. Tell your mom to put more money aside.
there will now be a 3.8 % federal tax on the house
that you live in. Same for anyone else that owns
property that they rent out. Rent an office somewhere? Be prepared.

3.8 % federal taxes on other monies that you may have.

33-46 % of the doctors will close their offices.

Some doctors and hospitals will stop taking medicare and medicaide patients.

some more drug stores will stop taking new medicare and medicaide patients for prescriptions.

and since the E.O. can't over ride the abortion law in
the new healthcare bill. there will now be more abortions because the bill will now pay for abortions. :(

I grieve on this day. :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:33 am 
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Martha wrote:
GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY.


He did. He's healing our sick.

Martha wrote:
This country has been destroyed.


This country has been blessed. Shame on you for being so unpatriotic. Praise God we don't like in Ethiopia.

Martha wrote:
I hope that you are happy.


We will rejoice that our prayers have been answered.

Martha wrote:
they are figuring 5.5 million people are going to lose their jobs.


Mere speculation from the people who tell you what you want to hear.

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there will now be more abortions because the bill will now pay for abortions.


86% of employer-based insurance plans cover abortion care. This abortion thing is just a ploy to strip women of their existing coverage. Nothing in any of the current healthcare reform bills mandates abortion coverage or any other type of healthcare service. Opponents of women's health and healthcare reform are trying to hijack healthcare reform to push for unprecedented prohibitions on abortion coverage in the private marketplace.

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Lemme taste your tears. :smt016


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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
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Woe to us. This country has condemned itself. The death warrants for seniors, disabled, the chronically sick, and unborn babies, has been affirmed. For those of you who wanted this, you have got what you wished for, and in a short time, you will be praying that you will be spared from what you desired and received. :evil:


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Tiger1 wrote:
The death warrants for seniors, disabled, the chronically sick, and unborn babies, has been affirmed.


I can't believe that you actually believe all of that, but then I look at your posts on the Obama is the Anti-Christ thread and I remember your agenda.


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Chairman Mao wrote:
Tiger1 wrote:
The death warrants for seniors, disabled, the chronically sick, and unborn babies, has been affirmed.


I can't believe that you actually believe all of that, but then I look at your posts on the Obama is the Anti-Christ thread and I remember your agenda.



We know your agenda too, from your posts.


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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:18 am 
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Tiger1 wrote:
Woe to us. This country has condemned itself. The death warrants for seniors, disabled, the chronically sick, and unborn babies, has been affirmed. For those of you who wanted this, you have got what you wished for, and in a short time, you will be praying that you will be spared from what you desired and received. :evil:

The patron saint of conservatives, Bonzo's co star, aka Ronald Reagan made the same arguments about medicare. And here we are now.
Cons always have been on the wrong side of history & always will be just like now.

Don't worry Tiger, be happy, take it easy, it's time for celebration.
Eventually you'll be feelin alright.
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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
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Tiger1 wrote:
Woe to us. This country has condemned itself. The death warrants for seniors, disabled, the chronically sick, and unborn babies, has been affirmed. For those of you who wanted this, you have got what you wished for, and in a short time, you will be praying that you will be spared from what you desired and received. :evil:


As I see it Medicare will still need more money coming from somewhere yet to be specified. It will eventually pay out less and expect you to make higher co-payments. And it will be less likely to approve certain procedures such as experimental treatments. Despite the sugar coating of what Dems are claiming today the Death panels concerns are not without merit. A case can indeed be made that under Obama-care lief expectancies will probably not increase and may even decrease. But perhaps that's the idea! Assist the old people in checking out earlier to get their stuff.

And what happens to Medicaid when states cannot afford to fund it? Why did Congress exempt itself from being required to get the same coverage the rest of us have to carry? There were several efforts to include Congress but all were shot down quick. And what of private sector workers who may wind up with worse healthcare coverage than they have today?

I went to Walgreens yesterday and before ringing me up the cashier asked me if I wanted to contribute $1 to Jerry's kids. I was half tempted to tell her there was no need. Just let Obama-care take care of them. I wonder how soon the death panels will decide they are no longer worth life prolonging treatment and send them off to the end of life counseling and ultimate "treatment," which means termination even if by patient choice.

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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:46 am 
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Chairman Mao wrote:
Praise God we don't like in Ethiopia.

???WTF???

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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
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Martha,
I hope as all the details shake out, you will find some of your fears unfounded.
IMO, it is high time we provide medical care for those without it. It is a national disgrace that the US is the only industrialized country in the world to not do so.
Yes, I'm happy today that something has finally been done about health care.
I know that we lost most of our freedoms long ago, if you want to be honest about it. Big Brother hgas been watching for a long time, yet we had mikllions of people who couldn't afford to see a doctor when needed.
I've been in that boat myself. It sucks.
You might be interested to read some of the things that were being said when Social Security and then Medicare were being proposed. Both of those programs have provided millions of seniors and disabled people with decent lives.
Neither have turned us into a socialist country. IMO they have done far more good than bad.
Be optimistic about this new program. :D

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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
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-={ARCLIGHT}=- wrote:
Chairman Mao wrote:
Praise God we don't like in Ethiopia.

???WTF???


Oh give me a break. Cling to the first typo you find as if you've never made one. The K was supposed to be a V if that clears things up for you.


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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
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freetime wrote:
I hope as all the details shake out, you will find some of your fears unfounded.


That's not the goal. The truth IS known, but their only purpose is to find ways to demonize Obama even if it means at any cost. It's sick.


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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
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Chairman Mao wrote:
-={ARCLIGHT}=- wrote:
Chairman Mao wrote:
Praise God we don't like in Ethiopia.

???WTF???


Oh give me a break. Cling to the first typo you find as if you've never made one. The K was supposed to be a V if that clears things up for you.

Total liberal move to blame others for their mistake.

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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:06 am 
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Mirage wrote:

Despite the sugar coating of what Dems are claiming today the Death panels concerns are not without merit. A case can indeed be made that under Obama-care lief expectancies will probably not increase and may even decrease. But perhaps that's the idea! Assist the old people in checking out earlier to get their stuff.

Good Lord, still repeating the bullshit "death panel" fear mongering nonsense.
How lame.

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Why did Congress exempt itself from being required to get the same coverage the rest of us have to carry? There were several efforts to include Congress but all were shot down quick.

Wrong again:

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Section 1312, section D, of the Senate health care reform bill, requires members of Congress and their staff to get insurance through the new insurance exchanges once they are up and running in 2014. (see bill text below). Currently, members of Congress choose insurance offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, that oversees health insurance plans available to all federal employees.

The new exchanges would allow members of Congress, their staff and the uninsured to compare and choose from several competing insurance companies offering different plans with varying benefit levels and premiums. Unlike the individual market, insurers wouldn't be allowed to discriminate based on preexisting conditions. Plans would be required to offer a minimum set of health care benefits. Low income uninsured would be eligible for subsidies, that would be based on a sliding scale. The text of the Senate health care bill that would require members of Congress and their staff to get their health insurance through the new insurance exchange appears below:

(D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE—

(i) REQUIREMENT—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are—

(I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or

II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act).

(ii) DEFINITIONS—In this section:

(I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS—The term ‘‘Member of Congress’’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate.
http://community.arthritis.org/post/Joy ... t_ins.html
http://dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc-sen_health_care_bill.cfm




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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:14 am 
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I notice most of the rabid right usual suspects are silent this morning.
That's a shame...must still be in shock. :smt005.... or still recovering from a hangover.

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 Post subject: Re: GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY
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Edge, you wouldn't know the truth if it got up and slapped you across the side of your head !

The ripple effect from this unconstitutional piece of crap has preceded the passage of this commie care, and is rolling along real quick. Today, Governor Daniels put a freeze on signing people up for the Healthy Indiana Plan, which is health insurance for low-lower middle income families. He cited the obamacare as taking the place of this.
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Within the last month, my cousins husband, a doctor who specializes in oncology, lost his job when the Medical Corporation he worked for in North Carolina, shuttered it's doors in anticipation of the commiecare passing. My younger brother, who works for a major medical insurance company, has seen about 1/4 of the workers let go, because of the anticipation that commiecare was going to pass. My Honey's private health insurance has nearly doubled the premiums as of last october, also in anticipation of commiecare passing.

The American people have been screwed, blued, and tatooed by the traitors in D.C. :x :x :x

While I have always voted for all parties, seeing the shenanigans and the outright blatant destruction of the constitution by the liberal democrats in D.C, I will be voting nothing but REPUBLICAN in the primary and the general, and so will Honey.


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