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Author:  chuckmo48 [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:42 pm ]
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Skeptic finds he now agrees global warming is real
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

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The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

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His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

http://news.yahoo.com/skeptic-finds-now-agrees-global-warming-real-142616605.html

Author:  Regionite [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:08 pm ]
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I agree that global warming is real if you can throw out legitimate science, history, common sense, and the greed & profiteering associated with it and believe it is true by faith alone. But wouldn't that make it a cult religion? :lol:

So when did it stop being a frenzy towards global cooling anyway? Doesn't this weekend's early snow storm support global cooling??

Author:  edge540 [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:01 am ]
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My favorite part is in red:


"One-quarter of the $600,000 to do the research came from the Charles Koch Foundation, whose founder is a major funder of skeptic groups and the conservative tea party movement. The Koch brothers, Charles and David, run a large privately held company involved in oil and other industries, producing sizable greenhouse gas emissions.
Muller's research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by skeptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

"The skeptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a skeptic two years ago," Muller said in a telephone interview. "And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias."

Muller said that he came into the study "with a proper skepticism," something scientists "should always have. I was somewhat bothered by the fact that there was not enough skepticism" before.

There is no reason now to be a skeptic about steadily increasing temperatures, Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's editorial pages, a place friendly to climate change skeptics. Muller did not address in his research the cause of global warming. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists say it's man-made from the burning of fossil fuels such as coal and oil. Nor did his study look at ocean warming, future warming and how much of a threat to mankind climate change might be."

http://hamptonroads.com/2011/10/skeptic ... rming-real

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Doesn't this weekend's early snow storm support global cooling??


Evidence that conservative brain stems still can't figure out the difference between weather & global climate change.

Further proof that conservatives are the most ignorant creatures on thr planet.

Author:  Regionite [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:19 pm ]
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Na all it proves is it's another scam to make money. Sorta like selling a pet rock.

Author:  Moby Grape [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:32 pm ]
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Lying, cheating climate scientists
caught lying, cheating agai
n
Telegraph


Oh dear. I really didn't want my first blog post in a week to be yet another one about global bloody warming. Problem is, if those lying, cheating climate scientists will insist on going on lying and cheating what else can I do other than expose their lying and cheating?

The story so far: ten days ago a self-proclaimed "sceptical" climate scientist named Professor Richard Muller of Berkeley University, California, managed to grab himself some space in the Wall Street Journal (of all places) claiming that the case for global warming scepticism was over. Thanks to research from his Berkeley Earth Surface Temperatures (BEST) project, Professor Muller stated confidently, we now know that the planet has warmed by almost one degree centigrade since 1950. What's more, he told the BBC's Today programme, there is no sign that this global warming has slowed down.

Cue mass jubilation from a number of media outlets which, perhaps, ought to have known better – among them, the Independent, the Guardian, The Economist and Forbes magazine. To give you an idea of their self-righteous indignation at the supposed ignorance of climate change deniers, here is the Washington Post's Eugene Robinson in full spate:


READ MORE

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/james ... ing-again/

Author:  Moby Grape [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:37 am ]
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The Climate Scam Continues
Investor's Business Daily


Junk Science: In an attempt to revive climate hype, a chart by a Berkeley scientist claims to show global warming has not slowed. In fact, what it shows is no warming for the last 11 years. Self-proclaimed climate skeptic Richard Muller, professor of physics at the University of California, Berkeley, made quite a splash recently in the Wall Street Journal with his compilation of data from ground stations and conclusion that the earth has warmed since the 1950s and continues to warm.


http://news.investors.com/Article/58996 ... tinues.htm

Author:  edge540 [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:33 am ]
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Sorry, your bullshit op ed sources are crackpots & a denialist crank think tank, Global Warming Policy Foundation, that's as cededible as the National Enquirer.

Author:  Moby Grape [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:00 pm ]
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edge540 wrote:
Sorry, your bullshit op ed sources are crackpots & a denialist crank think tank, Global Warming Policy Foundation, that's as cededible as the National Enquirer.


More reputable than your Climate Messiah Al Gore.

Author:  edge540 [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:03 pm ]
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There you go again lying & making up crap again, I've never used Al Gore as a source for anything.
Unlike morons like you who don't believe in science & use your hero Rush Limbaugh as a source I use:

NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
the National Academy of Sciences
the Environmental Protection Agency
the American Geophysical Union
the American Institute of Physics
the National Center for Atmospheric Research
the American Meteorological Society
the National Research Council
the US Geological Survey
the US Dept of Agriculture
the vast majority of peer review
the Pentagon
the White House
Scientific American
atmospheric Sciences at Texas A&M
the American Physical Society
Jason Defense Advisory Group
the Center for Naval Analyses

Author:  suzyq [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:13 pm ]
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[quote="edge540"]There you go again lying & making up crap again, I've never used Al Gore as a source for anything.
Unlike morons like you who don't believe in science & use your hero Rush Limbaugh as a source I use:

You use your hand in your pants, while dreaming of the commie in the white house

Author:  Regionite [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:45 pm ]
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edge540 wrote:
Sorry, your bullshit op ed sources are crackpots & a denialist crank think tank, Global Warming Policy Foundation, that's as cededible as the National Enquirer.


In case you forgot even the National Enquirer manages to scoop the traditional media on a real news story once in a blue moon. ;)

Author:  Regionite [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:48 pm ]
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edge540 wrote:
There you go again lying & making up crap again, I've never used Al Gore as a source for anything.
Unlike morons like you who don't believe in science & use your hero Rush Limbaugh as a source I use:

NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
the National Academy of Sciences
the Environmental Protection Agency
the American Geophysical Union
the American Institute of Physics
the National Center for Atmospheric Research
the American Meteorological Society
the National Research Council
the US Geological Survey
the US Dept of Agriculture
the vast majority of peer review
the Pentagon
the White House
Scientific American
atmospheric Sciences at Texas A&M
the American Physical Society
Jason Defense Advisory Group
the Center for Naval Analyses


What do the majority of those have in common? Public money and a desire to get their budgets increased. ;)

Author:  r11 [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:42 pm ]
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Angry Ed540 wrote:
as a source I use:
happy jack wrote:

the janitor at Argonne.

Author:  Regionite [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:59 am ]
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Well you know back to that old time religion theme they got Scientology "experts" ya know. So could you label the global warming believers Climatologists so they finally got an official sounding name? hee hee

Author:  chuckmo48 [ Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:55 pm ]
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Biggest jump ever seen in global warming gases
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The global output of heat-trapping carbon dioxide jumped by the biggest amount on record, the U.S. Department of Energy calculated, a sign of how feeble the world's efforts are at slowing man-made global warming.

http://news.yahoo.com/biggest-jump-ever-seen-global-warming-gases-183955211.html

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