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 Post subject: Re: Paul Ryan....VP..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Edge...don't you know by now that it is OK when the rethugs do it...remember mitt's motto..I've got mine so screw you...typical conservative hypocrisy...


Nah, it's not OK. But when the mainstream media DOES NOT treat the dems the same way....cry all you want...it's meaningless to me... :smt005 :smt006

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BAN-HIS-ASS... :wink:

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Paul Ryan’s Mama’s So Old, She’s Campaigning to Convince Fellow Seniors Her Son Isn’t Evil

http://gawker.com/5935915/paul-ryans-mamas-so-old-shes-campaigning-to-convince-fellow-seniors-her-son-isnt-evil

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 Post subject: Re: Paul Ryan....VP..
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Paul Ryan’s Mama’s So Old, She’s Campaigning to Convince Fellow Seniors Her Son Isn’t Evil

http://gawker.com/5935915/paul-ryans-mamas-so-old-shes-campaigning-to-convince-fellow-seniors-her-son-isnt-evil


here's the opening line from this ridiculous article


''For many candidates, having one's mom on the campaign trail could prove embarrassing''

tell us chuck.

are YOU embarrassed by your Mother?

and why are you even talking about Ryans Mom when you should be talking about Obamas achievements?

oh that's right...

there are none.

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 Post subject: Re: Paul Ryan....VP..
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:13 pm 
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chuckmo48 wrote:
GEE A LITTLE MORE THAN THE 13.6% MITT PAYS NOW..(But I know that is OK with the cons on this board because they all make 20 million or more...)


If NWIdiots would worry more about existing in the world the way it works today, as opposed to the way it worked 50 years ago, instead of what income tax percentage other folks actually paid, your standard of living would probably be much higher.

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With all exemptions and credits removed, that turns the $3,810 tax bill that Ryan's plan proposed as a net savings for you into a $2,160 tax hike.


If (and that is a ridiculously large "if") any of that is remotely true, then guys like you and Sparks Hein ought to be gooing in your pants. Just a few months ago, weren't sizeable crowds of union-type Democrats gathered in Indianapolis and Madison screeching "RAISE MY TAXES!"?. Let's take Sparks Hein for example. He is accepting a $30,000 bribe from the City of Hammond to fund his daughter's fling with college. Whenever he gets a chance, he cries about himself and others being ridiculously under taxed. There is obviously some fiendish plot hatched by George Bush and Mitch Daniels that prevent guys like him, Dave Kuziak, Matt Reardon, Warren Buffet, Thomas McDermott, and Bill Gates that prevents them from sending larger portions of their incomes to the IRS. They may just get the tax increase they have been praying for! Then we can all become cops, firemen, and teachers.


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chuckmo48 wrote:
Paul Ryan’s Mama’s So Old, She’s Campaigning to Convince Fellow Seniors Her Son Isn’t Evil

http://gawker.com/5935915/paul-ryans-mamas-so-old-shes-campaigning-to-convince-fellow-seniors-her-son-isnt-evil


here's the opening line from this ridiculous article


''For many candidates, having one's mom on the campaign trail could prove embarrassing''

tell us chuck.

are YOU embarrassed by your Mother?

and why are you even talking about Ryans Mom when you should be talking about Obamas achievements?

oh that's right...

there are none.


Great points. The scary thing is this soap opera vitriol that he thinks is news worthy.

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Oh look boys and girls, Paul Ryan flip flops on abortion

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Paul Ryan's positions on abortion have been nearly the same as Todd Akin's -- at least until late last night when the Romney Campaign issued a statement distancing itself from Rep. Todd Akin's ugly comments, but at the same time saying both he and Paul Ryan support abortion in the case of rape, which is in conflict with Paul Ryans previous positions, as reported by Sam Stein, and Laura Bassett. Reversing Paul Ryan's strong opposition to abortion, except in the cases of where the mother's life is in danger, is another major "etch a sketch" moment. Paul Ryan even sponsored legislation defining fetal cells as human beings, which would make abortion murder, unless being done to save the life of a mother in an emergency.

In response to Rep. Todd Akin's (R-Mo.) inflammatory comment on Sunday that "legitimate rape" victims rarely get pregnant and therefore do not need abortions, Mitt Romney's campaign said that he and running mate Paul Ryan support abortion rights for rape victims.
"Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," Andrea Saul, a Romney spokesperson, told The Huffington Post.

While Saul's statement is consistent with Romney's position on abortion, it's a clear departure from Ryan's position, which is that abortion should only be legal in cases where the life of the mother is at risk. Ryan sponsored a fetal personhood bill, which would effectively criminalize abortion and some forms of birth control without exceptions for rape victims.

“I’m as pro-life as a person gets,” he told the Weekly Standard in 2010. “You’re not going to have a truce.”

Ryan also cosponsored the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act" with Akin in 2011. The GOP tried to narrow the definition of rape as it related to abortions with the measure. Only in instances of "forcible rape," the bill specified, would a woman be eligible to have her abortion covered under insurance.

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In the leftoid world they'll kill an innocent child in favor of getting the rapists vote.

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In the extremist, fanatic, wacko wing nut world of conservatives this is an "innocent child."
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In the extremist, fanatic, wacko wing nut world of conservatives this is an "innocent child."
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so is this you ass hole

http://amightywind.com/abortionf/abortion01.jpg

be warned (GRAPHIC)

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speaking of ass holes...after about 20 years the "pro life" wacko wing nuts have no peoblem sending what was once an "innocent child" off to needless war.
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speaking of ass holes...after about 20 years the "pro life" wacko wing nuts have no peoblem sending what was once an "innocent child" off to needless war.
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Moby clocks him and he gets so upset he can't even spell...problem...LMAO...and gets his pic from ...cannabis.com.....funny stuff... too late...can't edit this one... :smt005 :smt006

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Obama for America spokeswoman Liz Smith released the following statement:

“While Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are working overtime to distance themselves from Rep. Todd Akin’s comments on rape, they are contradicting their own records. Mr. Romney supports the Human Life Amendment, which would ban abortion in all instances, even in the case of rape and incest. In fact, that amendment is a central part of the Republican Party’s platform that is being voted on tomorrow. And, as a Republican leader in the House, Mr. Ryan worked with Mr. Akin to try to pass laws that would ban abortion in all cases, and even narrow the definition of ‘rape.’ Every day, women across America grapple with difficult and intensely personal health decisions—decisions that should ultimately be between a woman and her doctor. These decisions are not made any easier when Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan treat women’s health as a matter of partisan politics.”


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Continuing cluelessness

What's the one glaring exception in the advancement of women in 2012? It's the continuing colossal cluelessness by the Republican Party when it comes to women voters. And that "continuing" word ought to cause great alarm among GOP leaders, whose avowed purpose -- above improving the economy or getting Mitt Romney into the White House -- is evicting Barack Obama.

Well, they'll have a hard time dislodging the incumbent as long as they continue to ignore women voters. In 2008, women accounted for about 53 percent of the presidential vote, and 56 percent of them voted for Obama.

Peter Nicholas of the Wall Street Journal reports that the latest WSJ-NBC News poll shows women favoring Obama over Romney, 54 percent to 39 percent. Here's where this subject becomes real distressing for Republicans: Among college-educated women -- a group more inclined to vote, I'm guessing -- Obama has a whopping 63 percent to 32 percent lead over Romney.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/aug/ ... ch-in-gop/

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The lying asswipe-hypocrite wrote the letters requesting the fuking stimulus funds.
Period.


That IS a BFD.



Hmmm...seems Obama did a press conference today....turns out he's a lying asswipe himself. Think your socialist news sites will fill you in ? :smt006

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Yes, Paul Ryan is joke.
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By PAUL KRUGMAN
Mitt Romney’s choice of Paul Ryan as his running mate led to a wave of pundit accolades. Now, declared writer after writer, we’re going to have a real debate about the nation’s fiscal future. This was predictable: never mind the Tea Party, Mr. Ryan’s true constituency is the commentariat, which years ago decided that he was the Honest, Serious Conservative, whose proposals deserve respect even if you don’t like him.

But he isn’t and they don’t. Ryanomics is and always has been a con game, although to be fair, it has become even more of a con since Mr. Ryan joined the ticket.

Let’s talk about what’s actually in the Ryan plan, and let’s distinguish in particular between actual, specific policy proposals and unsupported assertions. To focus things a bit more, let’s talk — as most budget discussions do — about what’s supposed to happen over the next 10 years.

On the tax side, Mr. Ryan proposes big cuts in tax rates on top income brackets and corporations. He has tried to dodge the normal process in which tax proposals are “scored” by independent auditors, but the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has done the math, and the revenue loss from these cuts comes to $4.3 trillion over the next decade.

On the spending side, Mr. Ryan proposes huge cuts in Medicaid, turning it over to the states while sharply reducing funding relative to projections under current policy. That saves around $800 billion. He proposes similar harsh cuts in food stamps, saving a further $130 billion or so, plus a grab-bag of other cuts, such as reduced aid to college students. Let’s be generous and say that all these cuts would save $1 trillion.

On top of this, Mr. Ryan includes the $716 billion in Medicare savings that are part of Obamacare, even though he wants to scrap everything else in that act. Despite this, Mr. Ryan has now joined Mr. Romney in denouncing President Obama for “cutting Medicare”; more on that in a minute.

So if we add up Mr. Ryan’s specific proposals, we have $4.3 trillion in tax cuts, partially offset by around $1.7 trillion in spending cuts — with the tax cuts, surprise, disproportionately benefiting the top 1 percent, while the spending cuts would primarily come at the expense of low-income families. Over all, the effect would be to increase the deficit by around two and a half trillion dollars.

Yet Mr. Ryan claims to be a deficit hawk. What’s the basis for that claim?

Well, he says that he would offset his tax cuts by “base broadening,” eliminating enough tax deductions to make up the lost revenue. Which deductions would he eliminate? He refuses to say — and realistically, revenue gain on the scale he claims would be virtually impossible.

At the same time, he asserts that he would make huge further cuts in spending. What would he cut? He refuses to say.

What Mr. Ryan actually offers, then, are specific proposals that would sharply increase the deficit, plus an assertion that he has secret tax and spending plans that he refuses to share with us, but which will turn his overall plan into deficit reduction.

If this sounds like a joke, that’s because it is. Yet Mr. Ryan’s “plan” has been treated with great respect in Washington. He even received an award for fiscal responsibility from three of the leading deficit-scold pressure groups. What’s going on?

The answer, basically, is a triumph of style over substance. Over the longer term, the Ryan plan would end Medicare as we know it — and in Washington, “fiscal responsibility” is often equated with willingness to slash Medicare and Social Security, even if the purported savings would be used to cut taxes on the rich rather than to reduce deficits. Also, self-proclaimed centrists are always looking for conservatives they can praise to showcase their centrism, and Mr. Ryan has skillfully played into that weakness, talking a good game even if his numbers don’t add up.

The question now is whether Mr. Ryan’s undeserved reputation for honesty and fiscal responsibility can survive his participation in a deeply dishonest and irresponsible presidential campaign.

The first sign of trouble has already surfaced over the issue of Medicare. Mr. Romney, in an attempt to repeat the G.O.P.’s successful “death panels” strategy of the 2010 midterms, has been busily attacking the president for the same Medicare savings that are part of the Ryan plan. And Mr. Ryan’s response when this was pointed out was incredibly lame: he only included those cuts, he says, because the president put them “in the baseline,” whatever that means. Of course, whatever Mr. Ryan’s excuse, the fact is that without those savings his budget becomes even more of a plan to increase, not reduce, the deficit.

So will the choice of Mr. Ryan mean a serious campaign? No, because Mr. Ryan isn’t a serious man — he just plays one on TV.

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