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| Author: | edge540 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Holy crap While the leader of the GOP, drug addict Rush Limbaugh is having a cow over this, we have some sane republicans with integrity for a change: Another Victory for a New Approach to War By MARK LANDLER and DAVID LEONHARDT WASHINGTON — The death of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi is the latest victory for a new American approach to war: few if any troops on the ground, the heavy use of air power, including drones and, at least in the case of Libya, a reliance on allies. Only a few months ago, the approach had few fans: not the hawks in Congress who called for boots on the ground, not the doves who demanded a pullout and not the many experts who warned of a quagmire. Most pointedly, critics mocked President Obama for “leading from behind,†a much-repeated phrase that came from an unnamed administration official in an article in The New Yorker. But the last six months have brought a string of successes. In May, American commandos killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. In August, Tripoli fell, and Colonel Qaddafi fled. In September, an American drone strike killed Anwar al-Awlaki, a top Qaeda operative and propagandist, in Yemen. And on Thursday, people were digesting images of the bloodied body of Colonel Qaddafi, an oppressive strongman who spent decades flaunting his pariah status. “It’s a great day,†Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, said on CNN on Thursday morning. “I think the administration deserves great credit. Obviously, I had different ideas on the tactical side, but the world is a better place.†Senator Mark Steven Kirk, Republican of Illinois, added, in a statement, referring to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, “The administration, especially Secretary Clinton, deserve our congratulations.â€- NYT video: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/2 ... 21462.html |
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| Author: | Moby Grape [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
 The NY Times believes going to war without Congress approval deserves great credit. I thought you said we weren't in Libya edge. And didn't you say McCain was a senile old warmonger? Which is it? And while you're at it, how are we victorious and what did we gain? . |
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| Author: | chuckmo48 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Moby Grape wrote: And while you're at it, how are we victorious and what did we gain? Well we lost a dictator who was killing his own people...(that the repuks in congress wanted to send ground troops into) without losing one American Soldier... Quote: US casualties in Libya: 0
US casualties in first 3 months in Iraq: 214 |
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| Author: | edge540 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Quote: The NY Times believes going to war without Congress approval deserves great credit. There goes grape again, behaving like a hatefull bigot and making up crap as usual. We didn't "go to war." But there were republicans who did want to go to war & send in boots on the ground. Quote: I thought you said we weren't in Libya edge. That's right we're not. Quote: And didn't you say McCain was a senile old warmonger? That's right, he's the one who wanted the boots on the ground but unlike you he's not a hatefull bigot and has enough integrity to admit he was wrong. Quote: And while you're at it, how are we victorious and what did we gain? We helped the rebels in getting rid of a terrorist who killed Americans (see Pan Am 103) & who George Bush gave a pass to....without losing ONE Ameican life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103 Now you know all the facts. |
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| Author: | Moby Grape [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
edge540 wrote: That's right we're not. That's right, he's the one who wanted the boots on the ground but unlike you he's not a hatefull bigot and has enough integrity to admit he was wrong. We helped the rebels in getting rid of a terrorist who killed Americans (see Pan Am 103) & who George Bush gave a pass to....without losing ONE Ameican life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103 Now you know all the facts. So what about the new Libyan government? tell us how this is going to turn out. please...legitimate question. Bush gave a pass to the Pan Am 103 bomber? DUMBO let him go. |
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| Author: | edge540 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Quote: So what about the new Libyan government? tell us how this is going to turn out. Sorry, I don't have crystal ball handy right now. Seriously, I suggest you watch real news as opposed to the fake news, right wing propaganda on Fox & keep up with what's going on in Lbya. Nobody know what's going to happen. Quote: Bush gave a pass to the Pan Am 103 bomber? DUMBO let him go. You're making up crap again, do some research. I'll make real easy for you: On Monday, Gaddafi accomplished one of history's great diplomatic turnarounds when Secretary of State Condeleezza Rice announced that the U.S. was restoring full diplomatic relations with Libya and held up the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya as "a model" for others to follow. Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... z1bLt0I3rF http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 66,00.html |
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| Author: | Moby Grape [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
edge540 wrote: Quote: So what about the new Libyan government? tell us how this is going to turn out. Sorry, I don't have crystal ball handy right now. Seriously, I suggest you watch real news as opposed to the fake news, right wing propaganda on Fox & keep up with what's going on in Lbya. I have been watching. What I see is Hillary is over there on an ''unannounced'' visit. probably giving away billions of our tax dollars right now to the country that CHEERED upon the return of the Pan Am 103 bomber. the whole thing looks staged. Just like OBL |
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| Author: | edge540 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Quote: probably giving away billions of our tax dollars right now to the country that CHEERED upon the return of the Pan Am 103 bomber. See, if you were not so stupid & ignorant you would know that Hillary can't do that. Congress spends money, not the Secretary of State. So...the republican house is going to give away billions of our tax dollars right now to the country that CHEERED upon the return of the Pan Am 103 bomber? Now_that's _amazing. Heh, deranged conservative hate mongers wouldn't give the black guy & this adminstration credit if he invented a cure for every known cancer, reduced unemployment to zero & got rid of every known murderous dictator on the planet...you would hate him even more, LOL. ODS is a terrible thing |
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| Author: | Freedom Fighter [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Heh, deranged conservative hate mongers wouldn't give the black guy & this administration credit if he invented a cure for every known cancer, reduced unemployment to zero & got rid of every known murderous dictator on the planet...you would hate him even more, LOL. [/quote] Murderous dictator indeed. He needs to add himself to the list. |
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| Author: | r11 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Insane Angry Ed540 wrote: Heh, deranged conservative hate mongers wouldn't give the black guy & this adminstration credit if he invented a cure for every known cancer, reduced unemployment to zero & got rid of every known murderous dictator on the planet...you would hate him even more, LOL. And why does Ed think this? Because it's exactly how he feels when a Republican is in office. Predictable Ed. |
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| Author: | chuckmo48 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Freedom Fighter wrote: Murderous dictator indeed. He needs to add himself to the list. Yeah right...If a repuk would have done it...you and the rest of the cons would have been walking around with little chubbies all day long...and with your handle one would think you would be glad a dictator was brought down without ONE American soldier killed...but hey you are only a freedom fighter when the reich party is in office...sort of like the supreme chicken-hawk; ted nugent....so typical.. |
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| Author: | Freedom Fighter [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
chuckmo48 wrote: Freedom Fighter wrote: Murderous dictator indeed. He needs to add himself to the list. Yeah right...If a repuk would have done it...you and the rest of the cons would have been walking around with little chubbies all day long...and with your handle one would think you would be glad a dictator was brought down without ONE American soldier killed...but hey you are only a freedom fighter when the reich party is in office...sort of like the supreme chicken-hawk; ted nugent....so typical.. What war were we fighting with Libya, to justify assassinating it's ruler? |
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| Author: | r11 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Freedom Fighter wrote: chuckmo48 wrote: Freedom Fighter wrote: Murderous dictator indeed. He needs to add himself to the list. Yeah right...If a repuk would have done it...you and the rest of the cons would have been walking around with little chubbies all day long...and with your handle one would think you would be glad a dictator was brought down without ONE American soldier killed...but hey you are only a freedom fighter when the reich party is in office...sort of like the supreme chicken-hawk; ted nugent....so typical.. What war were we fighting with Libya, to justify assassinating it's ruler? Just so you know FF....chuckmo runs from legitimate questions. |
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| Author: | Moby Grape [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
Quote: Will Barack Obama try to grab the glory for the downfall of Gaddafi? Telegraph [UK], by Nile Gardiner Without a doubt, the US president has already begun to do so with his rather self-congratulatory statement on Thursday at the White House. And his Secretary of State and Vice President have been loudly joining in, with Hillary Clinton jubilantly proclaiming that “we came, we saw, he died.†Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman John Kerry was positively gushing in his praise of the Obama administration’s role, declaring: “the United States demonstrated clear-eyed leadership, patience, and foresight by pushing the international community into action after Qaddafi promised a massacre.†Colonel Gaddafi’s demise is of course cause for celebration – not only in Libya, but also in America, a nation that lost nearly 200 citizens in the Lockerbie bombing in 1988, carried out by an agent of the Libyan regime. But does Barack Obama and his presidency really deserve to take the credit for the removal of one of the most vicious dictators of modern times? As I’ve noted in previous pieces, President Obama’s leadership on the Libya issue was hardly the stuff of General MacArthur. In the early stages of the Libyan uprising his administration was clearly hedging its bets, adopting a largely non-confrontational stance, and Obama himself was one of the last world leaders to call on Gaddafi to step aside. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... f-gaddafi/ Read what others in the world are saying in the comments after this article. |
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| Author: | edge540 [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: “I think the administration deserves great credit." |
No thanks, I don't waste time reading garbage by conservatives hacks. Nile Gardiner is a right wing extremist jackass who supported the Bush Iraq fiasco....nuff sad. “To rid the world of Osama bin Laden, Anwar al-​Awlaki and Moammar Qaddafi within six months: if Obama were a Republican, he’d be on Mount Rushmore by now.†- Andrew Sullivan |
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