Northwest Indiana Discussion

All those trucks traveling through your cites and towns spending money before Cline Avenue!

After they just passed through !

Kill Cline Avenue!

Stop the repair of Cline Avenue Hammond Whiting and East Chicago!

Wake Up!

Just think those truckers with pockets full of money looking for services that the criminal element of your communities will supply!

Cline Avenue took it away!

Give the lower functioning people of your communities a way to earn a living you self righteous criminals!

The crime rate will go down but please ! you must accommodate them with large parking lots!

Those boats only enrich a certain few and the criminal element/borderline functioning people have been disenfranchised causing them and the dredges of society to loose it and cause them to prey upon us!

30,000 truck a day by pass your dumb behinds which use to travel and spend money in the region because of cline avenue !

He haw and those influential leaders that told you how wonderful it was to build it could care less .

Hmm lets see if I got this right cline avenue is the drain on the cesspool .

Oh the traffic congestion you say!

Now look you poor trash Black / White /Brown those cities and towns were designed to accommodate the transportation industry now they just pass you by to other communities!

They stack up here in Gary and on the other side of Chicago and buy sex and drugs and all other sorts of crap!

They use to ride all up and down your city streets buying sex favors drinks and going to strip clubs!

Oh I forgot drugs!

All that business is now over here and in other communities.

Oh I know we don't want that sort of carp here oh yea what are you going to do with all those low functioning people!

Who want to work but society has no place for that you call retards ?

The cost of Cline Avenue!

Who and how in the world is Cline avenue going to be repaired in 6 weeks the streets of East Chicago and whiting will be destroyed and parts of north Hammond because of the closure.

Businesses hope customers use alternate routes
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November 17, 2009
BY CHRISTIN NANCE LAZERUS, (219) 648-3086

most are coping for now

Businesses and casinos along the Cline Avenue corridor are coping with the closure of a four-mile stretch by emphasizing detours to the more than 35,000 motorists that use the road daily.


A portion of the road that was closed on Friday is now open.

Drivers heading north on Cline Avenue from Interstate 94 can use the Majestic Star, Ameristar and ArcelorMittal Plant 1 exits.

If drivers entered northbound Cline Avenue via the Indiana Toll Road, they are routed north via the Cline Avenue frontage road.

The road remains closed between Michigan Avenue in East Chicago and Calumet Avenue in Hammond.

BP spokesman Scott Dean said the firm hasn't had any reports of problems experienced by truck drivers who frequent the plant. Dean said the company is dealing with situations as they come up.

BP Whiting has directed its employees to the Indiana Department of Transportation's Web site for information on detours.

Chris Corrado, Majestic Star Casinos' vice president of marketing, said it's a little too early to tell if business was adversely impacted by the closure.

"The biggest thing people don't necessarily know is that Cline north is open," Corrado said. "It is open to certain point, and you can get here."

Corrado credited INDOT and the Gary mayor's office with helping to route traffic. He said drivers coming from Chicago encounter the biggest challenge.

For drivers coming from Chicago on the Indiana Toll Road, they must use the second Cline exit (at mile marker 10) to get to northbound Cline.

Ameristar Casino spokesman Reggie Dotson said the casino doesn't have attendance numbers yet. The casino was helped by INDOT opening Ameristar's exit in both directions over the weekend. Casino personnel continue to alert customers about alternate routes, especially those coming from the west.

Indiana 912, known along its entire length as Cline Avenue, is a freeway north of the Borman Expressway (Interstates 80-94 & U.S. 6), and a local access road serving Griffith south of the Borman.

The portion of Cline Avenue marked as Indiana 912 is 11.69 miles long. .

On April 15, 1982, part of a ramp under construction collapsed during concrete pouring operations near the Indiana Harbor and Ship Canal, killing 14 highway workers and injuring 16. In 1987, the state designated the route between U.S. 12 and the Indiana Toll Road as the Highway Construction Workers Memorial Highway.

The freeway runs east from exit 3 of the Indiana Toll Road past the Gary/Chicago International Airport, and then south, also having an interchange with Toll Road exit 10.

This portion also serves several steel mills and casinos in East Chicago and Gary.

The north-south portion between approximately U.S. 20 and the Borman Expressway follows the border between Gary and Hammond.

Wow. Medicine, law, and now, civil engineering. Is there any topic upon which you are not an expert?

Lots of people don't drive to dreary jobs on that Gateway to Malignant Neoplasia, Cline Avenue. Only dolts like you that punch clocks at multinational polluters/petroleum producers are slack-jawed enough to gawk at the big machines next to the road.

Well then, why wasn't it caught, until it became an emergency? And I am knowledgeable of concrete structures.

During the inspection, faster than expected deterioration was discovered and they closed the bridge before it failed.IMO, the inspection process worked exactly like it was supposed to. Since you claim to be knowledgeable about concrete structures, enlighten us on what you feel went wrong with the process.

Without the inspection report and not visiting the site firsthand, I can only assume the obvious. The concrete spalled away from the prestressed/post tensioned reinforcing, and exposed the cables. This is caused by many factors, including:
1. Insufficient coverage between the reinforcing and the concrete. Normally 2" of cover is specified, but 2 1/2" to 3" should have been utilized.
2. Insufficient concrete strength. Normally 5,000 psi is specified, but should have been 7,500 to even 10,000 psi @ 28 days.
3. IF the structural components were cast on site, in the open, contaminants may have been introduced when the concrete was poured, thereby weakening the concrete.
4. insufficient drainage design. Salt and other contaminants MAY have been allowed to pond on the surface, thereby corroding the structure from the top to the bottom.

Anything else?

Oh yeah:
5. The concrete MAY have not been sprayed with a sealer periodically...

And by the way, anybody other than myself, ever notice the cracking on the Homan Avenue overpass? From the guard rails to the sidewalk and transfered to the deck? Just an observation I made and asked Hammond Inspector (voter3) about, LAST YEAR...